Comments on: Why Shouldn’t We Pick On People When They’re Wrong? http://www.revtrev.com/judging/why-shouldnt-we-pick-on-people-when-theyre-wrong/ Christian Speaker | Christian Writer | Lead Dreamer | Trevor H. Lund Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:58:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gary Patton http://www.revtrev.com/judging/why-shouldnt-we-pick-on-people-when-theyre-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-56 Gary Patton Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:09:01 +0000 http://www.revtrev.com/?p=108#comment-56 You're welcome, Trev! If I'm "fully versed" as you suggest, how come I'm always blowing my brains out? :-) In his grip ...always though, @GaryFPatton You’re welcome, Trev!

If I’m “fully versed” as you suggest, how come I’m always blowing my brains out? :-)

In his grip …always though,
@GaryFPatton

]]> By: revtrev http://www.revtrev.com/judging/why-shouldnt-we-pick-on-people-when-theyre-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-55 revtrev Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:19:30 +0000 http://www.revtrev.com/?p=108#comment-55 Gary, thanks for your comments and scripture references. You'll see my agreement unfold in future posts. It's not that I'm avoiding that part of the council of God - it's that I'm building a foundation to unwrap the whole truth. Great to see you're already fully versed. @revtrev Gary, thanks for your comments and scripture references. You’ll see my agreement unfold in future posts. It’s not that I’m avoiding that part of the council of God – it’s that I’m building a foundation to unwrap the whole truth. Great to see you’re already fully versed.

@revtrev

]]> By: Gary Patton http://www.revtrev.com/judging/why-shouldnt-we-pick-on-people-when-theyre-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Gary Patton Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:33:38 +0000 http://www.revtrev.com/?p=108#comment-52 Hi Trevor; Matthew, quoting Jesus above, is joined by Paul (1 Thess. 4:11-12 http://is.gd/1BF1T) and James (3:1 http://is.gd/1BF4w). In these Scriptures, each seems to be enjoining or cautioning Jesus Followers against any and all judging. Might you agree, however, that our Lord and other New Testament writers left us with many "antinomies"? (Antinomy [Greek αντι-, against, plus νομος, law] literally means the mutual incompatibility, real or apparent, of two laws. It is a term used in logic and epistemology. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomy) I wonder, might the issue of "judging" be an "antinomy"? You suggest: "Don't pick on people, even when they're wrong." Yours is certainly a loving strategy. It's in line with the Spirit's heart. And often it may be the wisest approach. And in our dealing with other Believers, only, does it not preclude the practise of "tough love"? If it does, can we totally eliminate an equally Biblical strategy as you seem to suggest? For, Jesus also seems to have used this strategy regularly to correct and mentor His disciples e.g. Matt. 16:23 http://is.gd/1BDnQ. Our Lord used tough love, often, in addition to not condemning someone who was wrong e.g. John 8:3-11 http://is.gd/1BESy). On the other end of the judging antinomy spectrum, we've been left with a number of seemingly paradoxical commands to the one you picked in Matthew 7 e.g. Matt. 18:15-17 http://is.gd/1BG2H, Luke 17:3 http://is.gd/1BGbo, Eph. 5:11-14 http://is.gd/1BE7Q, 1 Tim. 5:20 http://is.gd/1BFsh, Heb. 10:24 http://is.gd/1BFz1, and 1 Jo. 4:1 http://is.gd/1BFFU. How do you harmonize your counsel above, my Brother, with these latter verses? Thank you for your wise concluding advice regarding "asking for forgiveness". You are a wise man who has, like may other Believers, been "beat up" by a request for forgiveness from a so-called humble Brother or Sister who must tell you something you didn't know! :-) Blessings all! @EaglesFlightOne Hi Trevor;

Matthew, quoting Jesus above, is joined by Paul (1 Thess. 4:11-12 http://is.gd/1BF1T) and James (3:1 http://is.gd/1BF4w). In these Scriptures, each seems to be enjoining or cautioning Jesus Followers against any and all judging.

Might you agree, however, that our Lord and other New Testament writers left us with many “antinomies”? (Antinomy [Greek αντι-, against, plus νομος, law] literally means the mutual incompatibility, real or apparent, of two laws. It is a term used in logic and epistemology.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomy)

I wonder, might the issue of “judging” be an “antinomy”?

You suggest: “Don’t pick on people, even when they’re wrong.” Yours is certainly a loving strategy. It’s in line with the Spirit’s heart. And often it may be the wisest approach.

And in our dealing with other Believers, only, does it not preclude the practise of “tough love”? If it does, can we totally eliminate an equally Biblical strategy as you seem to suggest?

For, Jesus also seems to have used this strategy regularly to correct and mentor His disciples e.g. Matt. 16:23 http://is.gd/1BDnQ. Our Lord used tough love, often, in addition to not condemning someone who was wrong e.g. John 8:3-11 http://is.gd/1BESy).

On the other end of the judging antinomy spectrum, we’ve been left with a number of seemingly paradoxical commands to the one you picked in Matthew 7 e.g. Matt. 18:15-17 http://is.gd/1BG2H, Luke 17:3 http://is.gd/1BGbo, Eph. 5:11-14 http://is.gd/1BE7Q, 1 Tim. 5:20 http://is.gd/1BFsh, Heb. 10:24 http://is.gd/1BFz1, and 1 Jo. 4:1 http://is.gd/1BFFU.

How do you harmonize your counsel above, my Brother, with these latter verses?

Thank you for your wise concluding advice regarding “asking for forgiveness”. You are a wise man who has, like may other Believers, been “beat up” by a request for forgiveness from a so-called humble Brother or Sister who must tell you something you didn’t know! :-)

Blessings all!
@EaglesFlightOne

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